dungeondevil
3rd Level Troll
Give me grain and I'll give you guns!
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Post by dungeondevil on May 11, 2023 19:39:03 GMT -5
Maybe something like the beloved Corgis of old: small, affordable, portable, convenient? I will repeat that it will be a good idea to reprint the dT&T rules, but in smaller paperback format and without the Trollworld setting section.
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jeffb
2nd Level Troll
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Post by jeffb on May 12, 2023 18:38:59 GMT -5
They are well known for turning stuff into vidoe games, so lets hope for Trollworld virtual adventures Better news I think. I'd be really interested in a T&T video game/rpg (way more than another new edition of the ttrpg, but I supposed that has to be a thing as they put their stamp on it "New and Improved T&T!"* ) * and that said- I'd like to see a new version of the TTRPG, rather than a re-hash/re-packaging of DT&T (which is not my thing)
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Post by bigjackbrass on May 13, 2023 3:57:11 GMT -5
…and that said- I'd like to see a new version of the TTRPG, rather than a re-hash/re-packaging of DT&T (which is not my thing) In an ideal world I'd hope for something akin to the Mongoose version of Traveller, which set aside more recent takes on the game and went back to the classic edition as its basis.
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Post by Aramis of Erak on May 18, 2023 3:33:23 GMT -5
Feeling good about this... more good T&T stuff coming soon, if my crystal ball is still working! Given that their FAQ refuses to even promise compatibility of the new edition with older editions... one can hope, but until they make some decisions, it's up in the air. What will happen with Tunnels & Trolls at Rebellion?We are actively working on the next chapter of Tunnels & Trolls releases. That’s all we can say right now, but if you want to make sure you always hear the latest news on Tunnels & Trolls be sure to subscribe to our newsletter. Will the new content be compatible with my Tunnels & Trolls books?Exactly how the new content of Tunnels & Trolls will look and play is still work in progress. What we can say is that at every step of development we’re considering how the new plans we have in store will integrate with the parts you already love, whether it’s your favourite player character or your most well-thumbed solo adventure book. Can I still get old issues of Tunnels & Trolls?The entire back-catalogue of Flying Buffalo RPGS remain available to buy at Drive Thru RPG. rebellionunplugged.com/tunnelsandtrolls/
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Post by Aramis of Erak on May 18, 2023 4:00:53 GMT -5
…and that said- I'd like to see a new version of the TTRPG, rather than a re-hash/re-packaging of DT&T (which is not my thing) In an ideal world I'd hope for something akin to the Mongoose version of Traveller, which set aside more recent takes on the game and went back to the classic edition as its basis. More like reinvented the wheel. At the level of "ignore the rules" that many play at, it's close enough. But it's really "convert on the fly and ignore the different odds" level.... It's not a bad game, but it's not a revision of 77 nor 81 editions. It's mechanical borrows are ship building and world gen, both of which got some fundamental changes. Everything else is different, including the Character Gen process and aging rolls. I'm worried that RT&T may have some very fundamental differences.
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Post by nialldubh on May 18, 2023 5:52:52 GMT -5
Due to his reaction to T&T game, I not sure he would wish to change much?
I be happy with some changes, games advance. But I loved 5E and it took me over a decade for me to change to DT&T. So, I hope the changes are limited to more fixing problems in rules than changing the the whole format?
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apn
5th Level Troll
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Post by apn on May 18, 2023 6:40:41 GMT -5
If he was really interested in coming out with a 'one version to rule them all' he'd reach out to the various places (forums including this one) to get ideas and submissions so here's hoping. Has anyone been in contact yet?
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Post by gringnr on May 18, 2023 9:23:27 GMT -5
…and that said- I'd like to see a new version of the TTRPG, rather than a re-hash/re-packaging of DT&T (which is not my thing) In an ideal world I'd hope for something akin to the Mongoose version of Traveller, which set aside more recent takes on the game and went back to the classic edition as its basis. I'd like to see basically a reprinting of 5, witj lots of "optional" rules, such as Spite Damage, Zero-Level SRs, Monster Special Attacks, etc. Keep the 5e core, but catalog the various subsequent rules in an appendix of options. A la carte style.
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dungeondevil
3rd Level Troll
Give me grain and I'll give you guns!
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Post by dungeondevil on May 18, 2023 17:14:07 GMT -5
Zero-level SRs? Would that be at 15?
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mosker
5th Level Troll
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Post by mosker on May 18, 2023 17:27:02 GMT -5
Zero-level SRs? Would that be at 15? If you don't auto-fail/fumble (1 & 2 or also 1 & 3 depending on the edition), you pass regardless of attribute value.
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Post by nialldubh on May 19, 2023 3:03:27 GMT -5
Zero-level SRs? Would that be at 15? Yes, I believe so, I would expect someone to roll for that. A STR L0SR for a Hobbit with a STR 6, needs to roll a 9 and a failure is still dangerous?
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Post by alkazar on May 20, 2023 1:29:44 GMT -5
Yes, a zero level save is 15. It's a save for minor activities where a chance of failure is unlikely but not impossible and where a L1 save would be overkill. It's also useful if you use MSPE skills with the Japanese skill rank system where save level is reduced by skill rank and you need an extra save level beneath L1.
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dungeondevil
3rd Level Troll
Give me grain and I'll give you guns!
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Post by dungeondevil on May 20, 2023 21:55:11 GMT -5
Cool. Sorry to derail the thread. Well...back on track:
Feeling good about this... more good T&T stuff coming soon, if my crystal ball is still working! Given that their FAQ refuses to even promise compatibility of the new edition with older editions... one can hope, but until they make some decisions, it's up in the air. What will happen with Tunnels & Trolls at Rebellion?We are actively working on the next chapter of Tunnels & Trolls releases. That’s all we can say right now, but if you want to make sure you always hear the latest news on Tunnels & Trolls be sure to subscribe to our newsletter. Will the new content be compatible with my Tunnels & Trolls books?Exactly how the new content of Tunnels & Trolls will look and play is still work in progress. What we can say is that at every step of development we’re considering how the new plans we have in store will integrate with the parts you already love, whether it’s your favourite player character or your most well-thumbed solo adventure book. Can I still get old issues of Tunnels & Trolls?The entire back-catalogue of Flying Buffalo RPGS remain available to buy at Drive Thru RPG. rebellionunplugged.com/tunnelsandtrolls/I'm wondering of they (Rebellion) are considering ditching almost 50 years of history by having a full re-boot of the game with a completely different game-system. That may attract new players, but surely alienate pretty much everyone else who's played this from earlier editions.
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Post by alkazar on May 20, 2023 23:11:13 GMT -5
I'm wondering of they (Rebellion) are considering ditching almost 50 years of history by having a full re-boot of the game with a completely different game-system. That may attract new players, but surely alienate pretty much everyone else who's played this from earlier editions. I actually sat down the other night and read through their rules light RPG system called Adventure Presents, which I'm guessing is their house RPG system they use for their Adventure Presents magazine adventures. To tell you the truth, it gives off T&T vibes. It's a very basic, cut down system (more so than T&T) but there are some rules that feel like a reworking of T&T mechanics. The combat system was very T&T like, I wouldn't be surprised if T&T was an influence on it's design. It's possible they might use Adventure Presents as a basis for the next T&T or they may create an amalgam of the two systems. I'm going to make a guess that the combat engine is safe. The save engine might get a tweaking though, everything else including the attributes might get the axe. I think it just depends on what they are planning to do with it. I'd really like to see a full sized RPG that caters to both solo as well as group play. I'd especially love to see a boxed set instead of an expensive hardback. Here's a link to the rules for Tiny In The Tower which I'm guessing is their current Adventure Presents scenario (it's a group play scenario which is cool)
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sscrompton
4th Level Troll
One of the members of the Fellowship of the Troll. Worked on dT&T with Ken, Liz, Bear & Rick.
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Post by sscrompton on Jun 4, 2023 23:47:19 GMT -5
Here is the link to the news. rebellionunplugged.com/tunnelsandtrolls/I've spoken to the Fellowship including Mike Stackpole and all of us are pleased with this development. For whatever reason WebbedSphere seemed unable to move forward with the game. They had a lot of plans, but I think they just had too many other fires in the oven to devote to T&T. None of us know if we "old timers" will be involved going forward, but we wish them the best and Rebellion is in a perfect position to do T&T related RPGs, fiction, comics or even a T&T computer game. All we now for certain is they have said they are going to do a new edition of T&T that will be at least convertible to the original game and that they will continue to sell the classic items on Drive-thru. IN the meantime Ken St Andre and I will continue to work on Monsters! Monsters! related adventures and other related books and in fact we will be announcing a NEW Kickstarter in JUNE for a new Zimrala solo and another connected surprise... Stay tuned - See you in Zimrala! Steve
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