T&T Compendium

[Boozer]

Sound like a mighty fine idea Skathros. If only...

[mahrundl]

Something like the Acaeum for D&D would also be great.

[Deleted]

For the list of T&T material:

I remember an article on Mass Combat for T&T in one of the Judge's Guild magazines (an early Pegasus if memory serves) written by Ken (also if memory serves).

It used hex maps and counters with units and characters being counters and having either been created for or used in a big battle in Khazan from a Monsters!, Monsters! game.

This is while I was in HS in El Paso so we're talking 82-83.

[Mhegrrrim Skulltosser]

Hobbit Hole continued on after a brief hiatus. Issue #10 is due out any month now. I still have many (5+) copies of HH#1-3 for those looking for a copy.

Plus there is also another much smaller fanzine to T&T the Dungeonier Digest (up to issue #23).

Although not a big piece of T&T history, there was an adventure "Knights of the Broken Cross" written by DA Jacobsen. The storyline had WWII Nazis invade Trollworld, allowing the players to repulse the invasion.

[dalton]

You can still purchase the entire run or HH from "that guy", as well as issues 10+ of Dungeoniers Digest.

I just started reading them all, well worth the money.

best regards

Dalton

[koraq]

So, there's a lot of interesting facts in this thread. It would be even nicer to update it to take into account everything published since then. This just screams out to be a wiki project...

[grrraall]

I also have, by Pisces All Media (PDF format - T & T solos playable as GM adventures - conversion to D20 included plus additional material):
- Toughest Dungeon In the World
- Hand of T'ah
- Flamingo Road
- Saralakali

Pisces All Media had originally planned to issue more, but they stopped the line and those products seem not to be available anymore. Maybe you could buy them from Jonathan Nolan, their CEO ?

[Burraggha]

I have seen 2 different 6th editions, The "Mythical 6th Edition" and another which is from OP 2001 (are they both from Outlaw?) Anyone know anything about the 2 versions?

[ProfGremlin]

May 17, 2011 10:40:15 GMT -5 Burraggha said:

Anyone know anything about the 2 versions?

Sure, Gryphon, I have both. What would you like to know?


ETA: You may find some info in this thread: Mythical Sixth Edition Questions. It was a thread I started asking specific questions concerning info I found while reading through the M6E.

[Burraggha]

Are they both from Outlaw or from 2 different sources?

[Burraggha]

Never mind, Thanks for the link. So Outlaw did one and Hogscape refined it right?

[ProfGremlin]

May 17, 2011 11:13:45 GMT -5 Burraggha said:

Are they both from Outlaw or from 2 different sources?

The short answer is, yes.

The extended answer:

The version that's downloadable in *.doc format has the following at the top of the doc:

[6th Edition T&T, Date: 2001 by "that company".]

{This new addition to the rules was printed without express written permission of the owner FBI (Flying Buffalo Inc.) and it should not be construed as a infringement upon the ownership of their held copyright and trademark.}

And this at the end:

Mutated & Published by: James L. "that guy" ("that company")
Designed by: All the T&T Fan’s
Posted To The Web by: David Thorn
Original Author: Ken St. Andre.
Owner Of All Copyrights/Trademarks: Flying Buffalo Inc. (FBI)

< No Copyrights, No Trademarks, 6th Edition, April 14th, 2001>

<Hey FBI, we were first! >

So, little question there.

The more recent version, referred to as the Mythical Sixth Edition was actually written by our own Hogscape and published by "that company" in early 2009. Please note, this was before the OP scandal came to light. Page two states that the copyright is owned by "that company".

[ProfGremlin]

May 17, 2011 11:27:13 GMT -5 Burraggha said:

Never mind, Thanks for the link. So Outlaw did one and Hogscape refined it right?

I would say they are two different games. If nothing else, the M6E uses a different system to generate characters - the Peter's-McAllistair Chart isn't used, now you can pick your kindred first and then roll differing numbers of dice to generate your attributes. There's an addition of a simple skill system (one that I rather like). Languages are handled a little differently. Those are the differences that I recall off the top of my head.

From what I've seen, the Pirate version from 2001 was essentially an extension of the 5th ed. with some house ruling implemented into it. The M6E which Hogscape worked on introduced a few things that I, personally, liked. Some folks liked it, others didn't see a need to have yet another version of the game in print. Either way, it unfortunately got caught up in the black cloud of the OP scandal and Hogscape's hard work was tarnished because of it.

[Burraggha]

Thanks Prof.
On torrents you can find both versions of the 6th in PDF form. They must have gotten rid of the blank pages on the MSE, as the errata is 3 or 4 pages off.