Any thoughts on fairies ?

[unclecranky]

On the other hand, guys, Fairy smiths would have the advantage of being on a scale with their forge - thus they'd be able to balance and/or sharpen the weapons involved to a degree that the larger kindreds just wouldn't find possible. Thus, a Fairy-made (for Fairies) great sword would be assumed to do the same damage as a human great sword in the hands of a human (though humans might snicker at the sight of a Fairy armed with a great sword scaled to size and call it a "dagger"... At least until they found themselves gutted by it).

[ProfGremlin]

I can imagine a human-smith collaborating with a fairy-smith would be able to produce items of greater intricacy, tighter weave, sharper edge, and rarer materials. A scale coat of armor created in such a smithy could, indeed, be a wonder to behold.

[uburoi]

Some noodling I did on the idea of size-changing fairies I mentioned earlier in the thread:

Fairies come in 2 sizes - one human-sized (5-6 feet tall) without wings, and small (~1 foot) with wings. They may change size instantaneously at will for a cost of 2 points STR/POW/WIZ/whatever; they may ONLY fly without a "Fly Me" spell in their small size. Equipment carried by fairies changes size along with them AS LONG AS *ALL* the equipment is totally organic (wood, paper, bone, horn, skin, leather, wax, shell, etc.); the smallest bit of metal or stone (including gems) will keep them from changing. If they carry coins/gems/jewelry, they must drop it before changing size.

Most fairies carry wooden spears with fire-hardened points (2+4 dice, 30 wu, 5' long) and horn-backed self bows with bone-tipped arrows. Their armor may be based on leather (NOT studded), paper, lacquered bamboo, wood or bone, as well as reptile/dragon scales. (Question: Can fairy wizards carry deluxe staves?)

[unclecranky]

Uburoi, (one of these days, I WILL figure out how to quote, I promise) This sounds remarkably like descriptions of the fey (fairy, elf,etc) folk of old! What a charming idea!

[uburoi]

Aug 16, 2014 6:04:08 GMT -5 unclecranky said:

Uburoi, (one of these days, I WILL figure out how to quote, I promise) This sounds remarkably like descriptions of the fey (fairy, elf,etc) folk of old! What a charming idea!

Which is what I was drawing on.

As far as quoting - see the "Quote" button at the top right of all the posts? Guess what it does...

[mahrundl]

Aug 15, 2014 18:45:39 GMT -5 uburoi said:

(Question: Can fairy wizards carry deluxe staves?)

I don't see why not. Why would they be any less able to do so than any other wizard?

A more interesting question might be, can they change size while carrying one? Is a deluxe staff 'organic'?

Which leads me to ask: what happens to another living creature which is carried by a fairy who changes size? Does it also change size? If the fairy lets go, does it then return to its original size?

[unclecranky]

Aug 16, 2014 7:54:48 GMT -5 uburoi said:

Aug 16, 2014 6:04:08 GMT -5 unclecranky said:

Uburoi, (one of these days, I WILL figure out how to quote, I promise) This sounds remarkably like descriptions of the fey (fairy, elf,etc) folk of old! What a charming idea!

Which is what I was drawing on.

As far as quoting - see the "Quote" button at the top right of all the posts? Guess what it does...

Yeah... See where THAT gets me? Only thing I was TRYING to "quote" was your final sentence about the ... guess what button...

[uburoi]

Aug 16, 2014 8:30:49 GMT -5 mahrundl said:

A more interesting question might be, can they change size while carrying one? Is a deluxe staff 'organic'?

Which is what I meant by "carry a deluxe staff".

Deluxe staves BTB are described as "a demon bound into staff form", which I suppose would be organic but in a world where trolls are stone and living statues exist might be a false supposition.

Which leads me to ask: what happens to another living creature which is carried by a fairy who changes size? Does it also change size? If the fairy lets go, does it then return to its original size?

Only the fairy and his/her equipment change size because SHUT UP IT'S MAGIC.

[mahrundl]

Aug 18, 2014 8:11:59 GMT -5 uburoi said:

Aug 16, 2014 8:30:49 GMT -5 mahrundl said:

A more interesting question might be, can they change size while carrying one? Is a deluxe staff 'organic'?

Which is what I meant by "carry a deluxe staff".

Deluxe staves BTB are described as "a demon bound into staff form", which I suppose would be organic but in a world where trolls are stone and living statues exist might be a false supposition.

Which leads me to ask: what happens to another living creature which is carried by a fairy who changes size? Does it also change size? If the fairy lets go, does it then return to its original size?

Only the fairy and his/her equipment change size because SHUT UP IT'S MAGIC.

I wouldn't necessarily assume a demon to be organic either. Not in the sense that we would normally use the term, anyway*. Are they really 'living'? But you could easily call it either way.

* I doubt that they are grown without the use of chemical aids, either.

[mgtremaine]

Certainly a good jumping off point for the GM's imagination.

At 5000gp for a new one, you can say there is some sort of bounding ceremony, perhaps at that time the Deluxe "staff" takes it's form. Wand, Ring, Crown, Amulet, etc all of those should be acceptable it's just the Wizards are used to using Staffs, it's in their training. Perhaps like the Wizards of Earth Sea, the Staff is a symbol of "office" only Wizards earned their staff.

-Mike

[uburoi]

I read over the rest of this thread, and while I think the idea of giving a fairy an inherent spell ability is interesting, I think Fenris' "Mind Pox for 1 ST" is a bit overpowered; BTB it not only incapacitates your opponent totally for 3 rounds but can also affect multiple targets, and, while balance is overrated in T&T, that's a bit too far in my opinion.

I can't find a spell I do like in this situation, so let me suggest this:

Pixilated: For a casting cost of 4 ST/WIZ/POW, a fairy may inflict on a single opponent an effect similar to drunkenness, causing the opponent to lose 1/2 their combat total for the next 2 combat rounds. If the opponent is somehow immune to normal drunkenness, they are still affected by this enchantment.

As well - Fairy bows:

Type	Dice & adds	ST req	Weight	Range
Extra-heavy	5	6	18	25 yards
Heavy	4	5	15	22 yards
Medium	3	4	13	20 yards
Light	2	3	10	18 yards
Very Light	1	2	8	15 yards

Cost is equivalent to standard book cost for full-size self bows; a sheaf of 24 bone-tipped fairy arrows is 25 gp and weighs 3 w.u.

Fairies rarely wear full armor; they usually restrict themselves to an open-face helmet (2 hits, 15 gp, 9 w.u.) and a pair of greaves (1 hit each, 25 gp /pair, 5 w.u. each). Fairies can dodge their DX-8 in hits every round, with a minimum of 0 and a maximum of 20. (can't remember where I got that particular house rule from, but I like it.)

[uburoi]

Aug 20, 2014 9:07:54 GMT -5 mgtremaine said:

Certainly a good jumping off point for the GM's imagination.

At 5000gp for a new one, you can say there is some sort of bounding ceremony, perhaps at that time the Deluxe "staff" takes it's form. Wand, Ring, Crown, Amulet, etc all of those should be acceptable it's just the Wizards are used to using Staffs, it's in their training. Perhaps like the Wizards of Earth Sea, the Staff is a symbol of "office" only Wizards earned their staff.

-Mike

I forget where I read it, but I seem to recall that deluxe staves do come in different forms such as wands and rings, but they can't be re-formed once they're "set" (they're "arcanosetting", in plastic terms). Thus a fairy might well carry a deluxe staff wand, which would be a wand in her large form and a staff in her small one.