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Post by gaptooth on Feb 15, 2012 11:10:46 GMT -5
Hm. Giving into a worm of a bully. Awesome. Unless I'm missing something, this was Machfront's last post here. That's sad. I like what he contributed here-- it had a huge impact on my uptake of T&T, and he helped me see the game's raw potential when I was inclined to hack. It makes me sad that he seems to have disappeared after this episode.
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Dhrrru
2nd Level Troll
I took the road less travelled ... now I'm lost!
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Post by Dhrrru on Feb 15, 2012 15:57:04 GMT -5
I wondered why machfront hadn't posted recently ... now I think I know why. Having studied law at Uni (albeit in the Australian legal context), I think a round of PMs about the legalities of defamation versus rights to freedom of speech might be in order at some stage (so that people don't feel as intimidated by threats of legal action that would turn out to be very difficult to substantiate in a court of law in any common law country - and would be complicated by the need to issue writs across national borders, & to natural persons rather than persons identified only by nicknames like 'Dhrrru').
I can understand why Vin has taken the actions he's taken ... but I can also completely understand machfront's disappointment about the whole affair (after all, it's 'our' game, right?).
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Post by gaptooth on Feb 17, 2012 0:39:24 GMT -5
I'm sympathetic to Machfront's disappointment, and I was vocal about my sense of alienation at the time.
I still strongly disagree with deleting threads when closing them with a moderation message would suffice to inform people of our content standards, and I still disagree with programatically censoring mentions of "Outlaw Press" and "James Shipman". I also find it distasteful that these actions were undertaken in capitulation to bullying behavior. But after a long time away from the site-- I encountered persistent login errors for a while and gave up --I didn't want my grievance over that to stand in the way of the friendly, fun, and creative interchange that characterizes the vast majority of my experience here.
This community offers something valuable to T&T players and enthusiast that I don't see elsewhere, and that's worth preserving. We can't preserve that by making threads disappear or by carrying out demands made by anyone who is unwilling to reason. But it takes effort to develop the necessary wisdom and intellectual resources to create such a resilient community. I want to be part of that effort in whatever way I can.
I trust the Vinn's goodwill and the goodwill of the other moderators, and I'd like to see further discussion about these difficulties.
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