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Post by jeffepp on Nov 5, 2016 19:14:56 GMT -5
That's what it looks like. I don't know if Chaosium has the Moorcock license anymore, though. There are some of the licenced games they did, being sold by other publishers. Pendragon, for one.
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Post by ElvenScribe on Nov 7, 2016 16:15:56 GMT -5
Yeah, looks that way. I can't find it anywhere there. Oh well.
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Post by Aramis of Erak on Nov 12, 2016 18:26:31 GMT -5
That's what it looks like. I don't know if Chaosium has the Moorcock license anymore, though. There are some of the licenced games they did, being sold by other publishers. Pendragon, for one. You're lacking some key info... Neither the Glorantha setting nor Pendragon were licensed by Chaosium. Greg brought the Glorantha Setting to Chaosium, while Steve Perrin and Ray Turney brugh the rules implementation. RQ the foundational product for Chaosium. Pendragon was also written by Greg, while part of Chaosium. The whole line was sold to Green Knight. Later, Greg bought it from GK. The Trademark for RuneQuest was sold to Avalon Hill. The Glorantha Setting was licensed to AH as well. The BRP Engine was licensed to AH, as well, resulting in RQ3E. The setting was always Greg's; when Greg left, he took the Glorantha setting with him. The Trademark was allowed to lapse by AH. Mongoose reregistered it as soon as it had lapsed. (Literally just a few weeks after Greg mentioned it being about to lapse...) Mongoose offered Greg the RQ trademark in exchange for a license to use the Glorantha setting. (Matt's a F*Ing IP troll as bad as the mad hobbit.) In between his departure from Chaosium and the MRQ debacle, Greg worked with Robin Laws to create HeroWars, later renamed HeroQuest, using the Gloranthan setting. He also (as noted) bought the Pendragon line including trademarks from GK. Neither game was ever licensed to Chaosium. Note that, since MRQ came out... ... Mongoose's license to use Glorantha has ended. ... Greg licensed a third party to produce new Glorantha/RQ materials ... Greg joined forces with Nocturnal Media ... Greg's kickstarted the new edition of Prince Valiant the RPG. (The rights to which also left Chaosium with him.) ... Greg became the CEO of Chaosium again. Now, According to several sources, the Chaosium license from Moorcock was a handshake deal, one that Moorcock didn't think would be worth a thing. Mr. Moorcock wasn't so naive, but still wound up looking naive, with the mongoose license. The ElfQuest RPG had been forgotten about by Richard Pini. (I asked him by email in about 2005.) Niven has said in the past that he's not willing to license stuff anymore. |
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Post by jeffepp on Nov 13, 2016 19:59:50 GMT -5
I new about the Moorcock license from the Deities & Demigods debacle. As for some of the other IP, I had no idea, one way, or another, accept for RQ being owned by a third-party company.
ElfQuest, I am afraid, is largely forgotten by a lot of people. A few of us diehards rebuy reprinted graphic novels, and look at the novelizations and short story collections that are on our shelves, and wish for more. Yes, there is an ongoing series right now, but it feels like much of the story is missing. The RPG, when it came out, was a great source book, but quickly fell out of date. Supplements that covered the follow-up series would have been great. But, didn't happen. (I still would like to get a copy of the Wars supplement.) BRP was a very good fit for EQ.
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Post by Aramis of Erak on Nov 14, 2016 21:58:42 GMT -5
Elfquest could easily be revised to cover through the collected volume 8; after that point, however...
My eldest has, by the way, read 1-8. I don't own copies of later graphic novels.
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Post by jeffepp on Nov 15, 2016 5:44:36 GMT -5
Oh, it's being revised right now. The third volume of the collected edition is about to come out, through Dark Horse. FYI, I was doing a little digging and found a bit of ElfQuest meets Stormbringer here. It's by Wendy Pini, the artist and co-creator of ElfQuest. Here is a sample of her doing Red Sonja:  And, just for comparison, here she is AS Red Sonja:   |
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Post by Aramis of Erak on Nov 23, 2016 0:32:22 GMT -5
Chaosium still owns the game rights, but won't be doing anything with 'em for the foreseeable future. Unless I'm wrong. Nope. According to their staffer on their boards, Moorcock owns the IP rights to the Chaosium Stormbringer, but not the Copyright on the game itself. basicroleplaying.org/topic/3626-elric-rpg/ |
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Post by mormonyoyoman on Nov 23, 2016 2:04:39 GMT -5
Tolja I could be wrong, din't I? Wait for my next Wrong Factoid in this space next week. Unless I'm wrong of course.
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Post by Aramis of Erak on Nov 23, 2016 12:50:24 GMT -5
Hey, the standard in the indusrty now is that all licensed games' copyrights revert to the licensor upon expiry - as well as subordinate/derivative trademarks.
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Post by jeffepp on Nov 24, 2016 11:47:58 GMT -5
In this case, it's probably due to the fact that the game is a flavor of an existing game system, owned by Chaosium.
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Post by ElvenScribe on Mar 7, 2017 15:20:05 GMT -5
Quick update, I found a D20 version of the game. Definitely convertible. I still think the Runequest'ish version of the game was better though.
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Post by zanshin on Mar 15, 2017 9:54:44 GMT -5
Quick update, I found a D20 version of the game. Definitely convertible. I still think the Runequest'ish version of the game was better though. Yes, I agree. In fact the d20 product was a very lazy port of the chaosium system into 3e D&D. It still used loads of aspects that made more sense for BRP than for D&D. However, the background info is still good in it. Really love 1e Stormbringer. Showed what Ken could do with a more 'intricate' system than T&T. |
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