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Post by smokestackjones on Aug 13, 2015 14:18:07 GMT -5
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unclecranky
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Post by unclecranky on Aug 14, 2015 7:36:38 GMT -5
The impression I get, Smokestack, is that Rick, Steve & co. are doing their jobs as well and as quickly as can be expected - nobody could've predicted the things that happened to slow production. Keep in mind that given the group of people producing the book, ANY illness or injury would've delayed production - and did. Also, the people doing the work, while they committed to producing DT&T at any cost, did NOT agree to put their professional or personal lives on hold while making the rules. They almost all have entries on Wikipedia as notable persons, but ONLY Ken's is (almost) entirely for Tunnels & Trolls. |
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Post by smokestackjones on Aug 14, 2015 10:12:52 GMT -5
The impression I get, Smokestack, is that Rick, Steve & co. are doing their jobs as well and as quickly as can be expected - nobody could've predicted the things that happened to slow production. Keep in mind that given the group of people producing the book, ANY illness or injury would've delayed production - and did. Also, the people doing the work, while they committed to producing DT&T at any cost, did NOT agree to put their professional or personal lives on hold while making the rules. They almost all have entries on Wikipedia as notable persons, but ONLY Ken's is (almost) entirely for Tunnels & Trolls. I understand that. And this is the first time, to my knowledge, that Erik has said anything negative about their KS. I know the dedication these folks have to produce a product, and I admire their determination to put out a GOOD product. I'm just saying that Erik would eventually say something about the length of time for them to produce, given people's hectic lives these days (not to mention unseen problems like illness and such). I'm sure no one wants to accuse him of "playing favorites" so to speak. I myself also look forward to seeing the finished piece and be assured that the extra care they're taking on it will be justified in an outstanding gamebook. Believe me, I have FAR more confidence in them than other KS's I've seen out there. -SJ |
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unclecranky
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Post by unclecranky on Aug 15, 2015 2:56:26 GMT -5
Shipping to commence!
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Post by smokestackjones on Aug 15, 2015 6:44:46 GMT -5
See?  -SJ |
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Post by hrrrothgarrr on Aug 15, 2015 13:43:19 GMT -5
I am disgruntled at how long it has taken to finally reach print. But happy that it is almost here.
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Post by gaptooth on Aug 15, 2015 15:01:13 GMT -5
As a backer, I have been pretty vocal in my misgivings about the product of this Kickstarter, but I think Tenkar's comments are unfair. They already told us that the books were printing, and I can't think of any reason to doubt that.
I do understand being frustrated about how long it took, but feigning like it's never going to come out doesn't seem warranted.
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quoghmyre
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Post by quoghmyre on Sept 7, 2015 19:50:53 GMT -5
Has anyone received this mystical book yet?
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Post by gaptooth on Sept 8, 2015 19:12:10 GMT -5
Not I.
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Post by gaptooth on Sept 8, 2015 21:02:39 GMT -5
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derv
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Post by derv on Sept 11, 2015 17:38:18 GMT -5
I recieved everything I ordered from the KS last Saturday (Labor Day weekend) at my door stop.
2-rulebooks
Compendium of Solos
1e rulebook
All 4 new deluxe modules
Bjorni's map
Death dice
Pencil's
Poker card deck
It's for Realsy (:
Now what can we grumble about?
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derv
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Post by derv on Sept 11, 2015 17:57:53 GMT -5
BTW- this wasn't Tenkars first time commenting on this KS either. Look back in his archive for a post on the Nuclear War KS right before the pdf of the dT&T rulebook was released. I attempted to talk some reason in that thread. But it seemed to fall on deaf ears. It's my feeling that it's Erik's modus operandi in order to get stuff before others. There's a number of KSer's out there that havn't delivered to a majority of the backer's, but once he get's his stuff nothing more is said. That's not a watch dog, that's a yappy poodle.
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cram
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Post by cram on Oct 7, 2015 15:00:32 GMT -5
Received my 10 copies on the 9th of September after the initial shipment was lost by the US postal service. I had to call Rick and discuss what the delay was because I had only a single cryptic e-mail on the 17th of August, from Flying Buffalo acknowledging my order of 10 copies sans any tracking information. I was busy at the time I saw the e-mail and couldn't get back to it for a couple of weeks. When I did get back too it Rick explained that the books were shipped via media mail and had been sent out in the boxes just as they had come from the printer, no additional packing. I called Rick on the 27th, just to be sure that the e-mail had been sent to indicate the books had shipped (apparently my e-mail server has a problem getting info from Kickstarter). Rick had to look up the tracking information himself and call me back. The container never left the hub in Ohio. To his credit Rick decided that he would immediately send me another 10 copies via FedEx and IF the unlikely event of the original order (empty box or not) showed up he would refund me the cost of shipping the surviving books to him. The FedEx shipment arrived on the 8th or 9th of September. It was a much more substantially packed box. So after 2 years and 7 months I got my books and I wish I could say that beyond the "wow it's finally overwith" feeling, a sentiment I have also felt on two other occasions this year (my divorce and bankruptcy) I can't say I'm thrilled with the experience or the physical result. When I posted pictures of the books in their packaging on my gaming group's Facebook page, a friend who has played since the 80's posted a single word comment: "Doorstops"
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zanshin
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Post by zanshin on Oct 14, 2015 4:55:11 GMT -5
Cram I am very sorry to hear of the difficulties you have had this year. I can certainly understand that DT&T will be an anti-climax in this context.
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cram
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Post by cram on Oct 14, 2015 10:27:26 GMT -5
I'm trying to be positive and hoping that it might grow on me over time but I stopped waving my party banners and noisemakers a long while ago.
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