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Post by bigjackbrass on Feb 19, 2021 5:49:13 GMT -5
Thanks to Kehaar on Twitter for spotting the provenance of one of the images used as a model for the MSPE cover art, John Frankenheimer’s 1977 film Black Sunday.  |
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Post by ProfGremlin on Feb 19, 2021 8:22:52 GMT -5
That is a great find! Looking closer at the cover, the man in the fedora kind of reminds me of Humphrey Bogart and the man in the white suit kicking the gentleman wearing the fez rather reminds me of an early James Bond film, Roger Moore era?
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Post by bigjackbrass on Feb 19, 2021 8:47:46 GMT -5
I've always thought that it was Bogart on the cover but hadn't given much consideration as to sources for the other figures.
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Post by gwindel on Feb 27, 2021 19:20:06 GMT -5
I am quite sure that the man is Fedora is Bogart from the Maltese Falcon. But I can't find the exact picture. As the one here under comes from a group of promotional pictures for the movie, I assume it must be another one from the same session.  And I am quite sure that I have seen the lady somewhere but I cannot remember. Still searching though. |
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Post by bigjackbrass on Feb 28, 2021 4:37:51 GMT -5
Could be from Casablanca rather than Falcon, as he dresses very similarly towards the end of the film.
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Post by bigjackbrass on Feb 28, 2021 5:05:45 GMT -5
Another possible find from Kehaar, Charles Gray from The Devil Rides Out is a fair match for the face on the background. I seem to recall Gray being suggested before.  |
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Post by bigjackbrass on Feb 28, 2021 5:23:09 GMT -5
And here's a Bogart film I entirely forgot to consider: Across the Pacific. Lots of shots of him in the trench coat and fedora combo, a more likely source than The Maltese Falcon where he doesn't appear in quite the same outfit.
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Post by bigjackbrass on Feb 28, 2021 9:58:34 GMT -5
There's been quite a bit of interest on Twitter about this. Mark Kitching found a promotional shot from The Spy Who Loved Me which fits the action in the lower right corner perfectly:  |
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Post by ProfGremlin on Feb 28, 2021 10:09:59 GMT -5
This is cool! Now all we need is a source for the femme fatale in the center of the image and the explosion in the lower left.
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Post by bigjackbrass on Feb 28, 2021 11:26:09 GMT -5
One thing I've found while searching, sadly, appears to be a brief obituary for the artist Brian K. Hamilton from February 2019. I'm not 100% certain that it's him, but it mentions being a self-taught artist, his father as being called Franklyn Hamilton and his living in Gloucester MA, which would be a fair coincidence given that I know that his father was pulp artist Frank Hamilton who lived in Gloucester MA.
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Post by gwindel on Mar 18, 2021 8:39:13 GMT -5
I am indeed not sure anymore of the source of the Bogaert picture. Indeed, he did wear a trenchcoat in a lot of movies.  Here for exemple: The Big Sleep, Casablanca and the Maltese Falcon But, I think that what we search is not taken directly from a movie, but rather a posed still for advertising or from a studio photographer. It would explain better the static pose, the different variants and the rather nondescript background. Now, if it is an advertising still, there is still the question "for which movie?"  |
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Post by bigjackbrass on Mar 18, 2021 13:39:46 GMT -5
Here for exemple: The Big Sleep, Casablanca and the Maltese Falcon The third photo is from Across the Pacific rather than Falcon. He really did wear that coat in a lot of movies!  |
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Post by gwindel on Mar 18, 2021 18:32:26 GMT -5
Here for exemple: The Big Sleep, Casablanca and the Maltese Falcon The third photo is from Across the Pacific rather than Falcon. He really did wear that coat in a lot of movies! And I am obviously mixing them all in my head! I think that a Bogaert week-end is in order to refresh my memory... |
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Post by jeffb on Mar 20, 2021 11:14:55 GMT -5
When I first got MSPE, when my Mom saw the cover, she stated that it was Marlene Deitrich on the cover (which having watched a bunch of movies with her, I concurred as well)- but I don't recall the name of the movie my Mom stated. Here is Marlene on the right with Rita Hayworth on the left (va va va voooom!)  |
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Post by bigjackbrass on Mar 20, 2021 11:36:26 GMT -5
Certainly a strong possibility: I'll see if any likely promotional stills show up in a search.
I did ask Mike Stackpole if he knew any of the reference sources but sadly not, although he did comment that the woman's stance is very reminiscent of vintage cigarette advertising.
What I probably need to do is to find an online community of classic movie buffs and see if anyone outside of the RPG field has any ideas.
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