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Post by Aramis of Erak on Jun 1, 2024 2:57:20 GMT -5
An Tir? Sounds like Old Irish for "the land", as in Tir na nÓg, the happy afterlife place. It's the SCA Kingdom encompassing the real world states/provinces/territories of Oregon, Washington, western Idaho, British Columbia, Yukon, and Nunavut. One of 20-some kingdoms currently. And yes, it is from Gaelic. It's lineage is direct descent from West Kingdom, which only became West Kingdom when East Kingdom was founded. (I was a baronial herald in West Kingdom for a decade or so, as well. The SCA has this policy of registered individual names alternate and in period style. (SCA "Period" used to be 500···1600 CE; now, it's pre 1600 with documentary evidence of names. Award scrolls for awards can only be done once a Society Name is registered. Deep immersion in this has set my expectations high and tolerances low. Many of my players over the years have been SCA or Amtgard participants... so they've all sought at least reasonably period names. My L5R naming guide is a not small collation... aramis.hostman.us/l5r/Book_of_Names.pdfMy Tolkien list: aramis.hostman.us/tor/names.htmlI don't have my Pendragon List online. Largely because I've trusted Greg's inclusions in the various corebooks, and added some others from SCA sources, and didn't keep them separate. SENA Appendix A has a huge list of known real world patterns. heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixA
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Post by tp on Jun 3, 2024 10:33:27 GMT -5
Even though a lot of real word names consist of existing words? it's not the real words; it's the sloppy and almost impossibly rare combination of things that just generally don't happen. it's the silly non-occupational, non relationship, derogatory surname. And the surname format being used for the personal name as well. I'm an SCA Herald, former sumbissions herald for An Tir, current clerk to same office. I see lots of really good, well researched names. I have a high bar. Very few cultures use negative imagery in descriptors. Droopysocks is such a negative. VERY few cultures use such constructs for personal names, as well. Norse and Japanese do, but the norse-descent languages froze on about 200 in total each. Mostly overlapping. Further, being in English and not following english norms? it's a verisimilitude. I'm not picky about when that set was; at least not when I know it or it can be shown. As you say it's personal taste. I find a very dry approach to world building to break immersion. Some tortuous apostrophe riddled names just make me roll my eyes. Names like Sidebottam and Cockburn come to mind as real world examples of what some people would find unbelievable. I wander if it is a nationality thing about names with negative connotations. Whilst in the UK we don't usually give disparaging names to children, most nicknames are at least mildly insulting. Fat Mark, One-Eye Roger and Short A**e come to mind.
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