Hogscape
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Stalwart of the Trollbridge
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Post by Hogscape on Jan 3, 2010 6:48:49 GMT -5
I'm Dan Prentice, I live in the uk, I wrote the random magic item generator article for Hobbit hole 14. I am zanshin on Trollhalla and RPG Net. If you want to check my independent existence , I teach Tang Sou Dao in Kent in the UK www.tangsoudao.com/contact_us.htmThats who is speaking. Noted. And speaking for Mike Hill. Now how many more people do we have to have to have speking speaking for him before he speaks?Okay K-man, what shady things? Mike Hill of the planet Earth speaking... Why not get on board and be positive? If you don't want to contribute to the 'zine, what is your agenda? If you are talking about your New Khazan, we have been through this in public on these boards. If you scroll up a few notches you'll see my earlier response. If you want to take over the editorial role, please do so. If you don't want that, I ask again, what is it that you're trying to achieve?
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Post by skathros on Jan 3, 2010 7:33:24 GMT -5
...looks like someone needs a hug.
I'm not sure about the other contributers, but as for me, i offer up what I have for free, for the love of the game. How can Mike steal what i'm giving for free?
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kopf
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Post by kopf on Jan 3, 2010 10:56:02 GMT -5
Okay K-man, what shady things? Mike Hill of the planet Earth speaking... Why not get on board and be positive? If you don't want to contribute to the 'zine, what is your agenda? If you are talking about your New Khazan, we have been through this in public on these boards. If you scroll up a few notches you'll see my earlier response. If you want to take over the editorial role, please do so. If you don't want that, I ask again, what is it that you're trying to achieve? Am I supposed to say, "Oh since you're the only person to do all that hard work then it must be alright"? I think what some of us are trying to say is that maybe you ought to pass. If we can't get names like Brian Penn and Mari Volmar to do some editing, then I indeed could step in. Your name attached to coordinating other people's work is only going to taint it and turn away others not already a fan of yours, including other authors besides myself.
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Hogscape
11th level Troll
Stalwart of the Trollbridge
It's not the years, it's the mileage.
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Post by Hogscape on Jan 3, 2010 11:13:35 GMT -5
You are one strange and bitter guy Kopf.
This will be my last post specifically addressed to you because frankly you strike me as being a tad unhinged.
In Australia we'd buy you a beer and tell you to 'get a grip', I can't begin to imagine what solution the inhabitants of your planet would offer.
If you want the editorial role, get the approval from others via this thread and I will email you the material I have received so far. If you choose not to take up the baton please do me the kindness of crawling back in whatever hole you emerged from.
I didn't think it possible but I do believe you've actually manged to turn the Trollbridge into an unpleasant place to visit. You mentioned in an earlier but equally vitriolic post that you only visit the 'Bridge because your wife thought it was a good idea. I'm sure she's a lovely lady but on this point she is wrong, please stop listening to her.
Thanking you.
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kopf
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Post by kopf on Jan 3, 2010 11:20:49 GMT -5
Oh you asked what shady things have you done? Here's my list:
As an "editor" you re-wrote an article of mine to turn it into a potty humor piece, without correcting any misspellings. Leaving my name in to by-line.
Put your name in the by-line of multiple works of other people.
Put your name as editor on pieces that were plagiarized by "that company" for publication. Looking at them and now comparing them to original works, the "quality" of the works was the original writing, not your contributions at all.
You often try to ostracize people who have point out your actions, and misdirect people around you with non-issues like "who is a real T&T fan?"
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kopf
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Post by kopf on Jan 3, 2010 11:24:14 GMT -5
So I take it that you're still the only person that can "edit" a Trollbridge fanzine?You are one strange and bitter guy Kopf. This will be my last post specifically addressed to you because frankly you strike me as being a tad unhinged. In Australia we'd buy you a beer and tell you to 'get a grip', I can't begin to imagine what solution the inhabitants of your planet would offer. If you want the editorial role, get the approval from others via this thread and I will email you the material I have received so far. If you choose not to take up the baton please do me the kindness of crawling back in whatever hole you emerged from. I didn't think it possible but I do believe you've actually manged to turn the Trollbridge into an unpleasant place to visit. You mentioned in an earlier but equally vitriolic post that you only visit the 'Bridge because your wife thought it was a good idea. I'm sure she's a lovely lady but on this point she is wrong, please stop listening to her. Thanking you.
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Hogscape
11th level Troll
Stalwart of the Trollbridge
It's not the years, it's the mileage.
Posts: 2,126
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Post by Hogscape on Jan 3, 2010 11:29:21 GMT -5
Okay kopf, you made a liar out of me. My previous post was not the last post I will specifically address to you. THIS one is.
I refute your claims. You should seek help.
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kopf
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Post by kopf on Jan 3, 2010 11:38:13 GMT -5
I've shown that you are not being selfless and actively and willfully want to be in control of anyone's T&T contribution through this publication. I'll go on to say this is an inkling as to your actions at "that company" for the last couple of years. I for one do not care if you're in-charge of this or that, I am just tired of all the BS you pull and must hide behind.
And please refute to your hearts content. I don't care if you think that I am bitter or whatnot. I make no claims as to your state of mind or intentions, I am only stating what you have done.
Okay kopf, you made a liar out of me. My previous post was not the last post I will specifically address to you. THIS one is. I refute your claims. You should seek help.
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Post by mgtremaine on Jan 3, 2010 11:42:51 GMT -5
Seriously we are going to get bogged down by this? Kopfy I know as a publisher you got lots of other iron's in the fire but if the Editor job of a "as yet un-published" zine is important enough to you to cast these stones then I urge you to take the position. Hogscape made it clear that he was only stepping in because no one else raised their hand. He wanted Machfront and mach said.. "errr, hey wait" and pointed back to Hogscape. Someone with the ability to be editor needs to step up.
Most important we need to get the first issue together and out the door. Hogscape has said he'd like someone else to take over after that. That seems pretty clear to me, so what taint?
-Mike
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kopf
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Post by kopf on Jan 3, 2010 12:29:00 GMT -5
Seriously we are going to get bogged down by this? Kopfy I know as a publisher you got lots of other iron's in the fire but if the Editor job of a "as yet un-published" zine is important enough to you to cast these stones then I urge you to take the position. Hogscape made it clear that he was only stepping in because no one else raised their hand. He wanted Machfront and mach said.. "errr, hey wait" and pointed back to Hogscape. Someone with the ability to be editor needs to step up. Most important we need to get the first issue together and out the door. Hogscape has said he'd like someone else to take over after that. That seems pretty clear to me, so what taint? -Mike Believe or not, I am happy that the TrollBridge fanzine is coming together. As for this or that pressing need for a fanzine to out quickly, I can see the need to do something in our community to show that "that company" was not doing something that no one else can do. This is despite the fact that are plenty of gaming fanzine/magazines, even some by members of our community. Some of us have issues with Hill being in-charge of this fanzine. We even feel that is similar to having "that company" do it all over again.
Before you say it, yes I understand that I do not have to contribute to this publication. And I raised the question as to why I even come here. It's really not to be unpleasant, nor definitely at the same time is it to boost our company's sales. Its more concern as to seeing what I consider bad habits of the last twelve years repeat themselves. This might isolate me from a lot of the group here, but we've seen where following the groupthink of elements of our community have gotten us-- bookshelves full of nothing to be proud of. Someone needs to point this out even if it is unpleasant.
I have made my point on this issue, I'll let everyone get back to being positive.
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Post by feldrik on Jan 3, 2010 15:29:54 GMT -5
I had stated in another post, to another member that a skeptic is a valuable person to have. I have watched what happens when everyone that agrees shuts out the skeptics, it leads to disaster.
Its a tough role to have but a guy named Thomas was known for his ability to express doubts to his circle of companions a long time ago.
It should all lead to the betterment of the final goal.
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Post by mahrundl on Jan 3, 2010 19:07:52 GMT -5
<mod note>
Folks, let's keep this civil, please. Personal attacks on other members of the forum are not appropriate.
This should not be confused with having a negative opinion on a subject. You can do that and still be polite.
(Posted to two separate locations where things got a little heated.)
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Post by mahrundl on Jan 3, 2010 19:18:20 GMT -5
On a slightly less fraught topic, I've created the TrollZine board in the Community forum, for posts relating to the magazine.
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Hogscape
11th level Troll
Stalwart of the Trollbridge
It's not the years, it's the mileage.
Posts: 2,126
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Post by Hogscape on Jan 3, 2010 20:49:50 GMT -5
Zanshin (Dan) is the new editor of edition one. My 'taint' won't infect our 'zine!
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Post by zanshin on Jan 4, 2010 5:17:16 GMT -5
As indicated elsewhere, i'll take this on as coordinator of material. My skills with layout/publisher etc are non existent so if someone else wants to take this on I will happily pass the ball.
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