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Post by Toad-Killer-Dog on Oct 20, 2010 17:39:26 GMT -5
Mahrundl's post on alternative spite damage and Prof Gremlin's talk about finding a referring movie scene made me think, when you think of movie examples of combat what are your favorites or the ones you come back to again and again to use as examples. Let me get it started with a couple of my favorites. The Jousting scene from "El Cid" www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvLmVa_goXYThe Two Siege Scenes from "The Warlord" www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sRWJhUXiBMwww.youtube.com/watch?v=zi7x6RDkcak&NR=1One of my favorite aspects of "The Warlord" is how well done the Norman's weapons & armor are. Charlton Heston was kind of a medieval weapons nut and he got a real feel of authenticity with the costuming for the movie.
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Post by machfront on Oct 20, 2010 20:13:29 GMT -5
Oh, jeeze. So many. But I'll admit that I, like so many others I've seen, always come back to Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbone at the end of The Adventures of Robin Hood(1938). Most especially as a means of describing D&D's hit point loss as not usually meaning wounds....that it is at the end of said fight when the Sheriff loses his last hit point or two (presents an opening that Robin exploits and the fatal blow is delivered). That is to say: "Hit points are not wound points. Take for example the battle between Robin and the Sheriff in The Adventures of Robin Hood." and blah, blah, blah. I've not related any of it to gaming that I recall, but I've always been fond of Richard Lester's The Three Musketeers and The Four Musketeers. Mostly for Oliver Reed's almost elegant brutality. A thundering swashbuckler, really. Usually it's presented so...fine and so slick. Not Reed, man. That dude makes it so....so...."Gggrrr!!!".
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Post by Toad-Killer-Dog on Oct 20, 2010 21:28:50 GMT -5
;D Yeah I love any sword fight with Basil Rathbone. Wether it's "The Adventures of Robin Hood" with Errol Flyn or "The Court Jester" With Danny Kaye, he did the old deadly duelist to a tee. Heres a great fight with Tyrone Power & Basil Rathbone in "Mark of Zorro". www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGy01mzKmMOf course it helps I'm a Tyrone Power fan.
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Post by ProfGremlin on Oct 20, 2010 21:57:40 GMT -5
Ok, starting out with one of my favorites: The Princess Bride duel between The Man in Black and Inigo Montoya: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-66KBi_NM0Inigo Montoya: Who are you? Man in Black: No one of consequence. Inigo Montoya: I must know... Man in Black: Get used to disappointment. Inigo Montoya: 'kay. Followed up by The Man in Black vs. Fezzik Sorry, I can't find a video example of this one. Fezzik: We face each other as God intended. Sportsmanlike. No tricks, no weapons, skill against skill alone. Man in Black: You mean, you'll put down your rock and I'll put down my sword, and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people? Fezzik: [brandishing rock] I could kill you now. Man in Black: Frankly, I think the odds are slightly in your favor at hand fighting. Fezzik: It's not my fault being the biggest and the strongest. I don't even exercise. If you can find it, the Burt Lancaster movie The Crimson Pirate is a great film full of wondrous acrobatics and stunts. The chase scene through the city is chock full of great stunt SR ideas. Here's another wonderful scene, Three Musketeers 1948 D'Artagnan duels Jussac. There are some great stunt SR's in this one as well. www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6prWV23jAw
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Post by Porkbelly on Oct 21, 2010 3:52:19 GMT -5
Ooh, finally a thread to bring me out of lurking mode... hi guys. Here's my contribution... www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFhfKcwbw5k"Scaramouche! You have given your last performance!" I think the pants should have won an award.
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Post by dekh on Oct 21, 2010 4:00:52 GMT -5
Any of Jackie Chan's, especially before he went to Holywood. Unarmed: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ijbax3CxoQHow long would this take to simulate in a less abstract system? How would it typically role play in Tunnels and Trolls?
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Post by ProfGremlin on Oct 21, 2010 9:04:07 GMT -5
The chase scene through the city is chock full of great stunt SR ideas. ::happy dance:: I found the chase scene I referenced earlier. Apparently, someone has uploaded all of the Crimson Pirate film to YouTube. The chase scene is here beginning at about 4 minutes in and lasting until about 10 mins.
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Post by quoghmyre on Oct 21, 2010 13:38:29 GMT -5
The Bride then travels to Tokyo, where she confronts her first revenge target (O-Ren Ishii) at a night club called the "House of Blue Leaves". The Bride first severs the arm of O-Ren's “second lieutenant”, Sofie Fatale (Julie Dreyfus), who was also present at the wedding chapel massacre. She then kills all of O-Ren’s immediate guards, including her personal bodyguard, Gogo Yubari (Chiaki Kuriyama). O-Ren's army of henchmen, the Crazy 88, then arrive, and The Bride engages them in a lengthy fight, killing or seriously wounding all of them except one. She then duels O-Ren, and eventually kills her.
I shocking display of sword combat... but what springs to mind as my plays wade though large parties of Orcs and Goblins.
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Post by dekh on Oct 21, 2010 14:43:17 GMT -5
My wife wouldn't watch KB2 after that fight. Didn't stop me.
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Post by Vin Ahrr Vin on Oct 21, 2010 21:35:56 GMT -5
How come no one has mentioned the classic swordfight between Jack and Will in the original Pirates of the Caribbean? (I'm thinking of the one in Will's swordshoppe when they are on the teeter-todder and Jack is offering swordsmanship advice, only to learn that Will practices for two hours per day...) Classic cinema!
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Post by machfront on Oct 22, 2010 4:46:41 GMT -5
How come no one has mentioned the classic swordfight between Jack and Will in the original Pirates of the Caribbean? Oh, yeah! That was a fun one. Which reminds me... Not a fantasy movie, but the sword fights are wholly wild an' crazy fantasy/T&T combats: The Musketeer (2001) Think of the Musketeers and you'll spend the majority of the movie rolling your eyes, but blank that out and perhaps think of the Fritz Leiber's The Gray Mouser when combat occurs and you'll be jus' fine.
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Post by Aramis of Erak on Oct 22, 2010 6:51:47 GMT -5
For me, it's the duel between Inigo and the 6 fingered man towards the end of Princess Bride.
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Post by Toad-Killer-Dog on Oct 22, 2010 7:26:54 GMT -5
Cool! A Musketeers movie i haven't seen, many thanks Prof. I've always been partial to the "Thirteenth Warrior" historical inaccuracy be damned I've never seen a movie more bursting with the spirit of Robert E. Howard. ;D Especially the final battle. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhm7DMvapGAAlso I love Jose Ferrer's swashbuckling in the 1950 " Cyrano De Bergerac" some really good stamp and thrust.
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Post by order99 on Oct 24, 2010 12:20:11 GMT -5
And for that matter, the remake with Gerard Depardieu (coached by Jose Ferrer off camera no less) is equally brilliant!
On a related note-Depardieu isn't a bad actor in English, but hearing Rostand's metrics from the actor in the original French easily tripled my respect for both poetry and performer...Gerard Depardieu in his native tongue is mind-blowingly awesome! Worth the subtitles every time..
BTW-is it cheating to list a Stop-motion effects artist as a choreographer? Because Ray Harryhausen was an undisputed master of both. My two favorite fight scenes of all time:
The Skeleton Warriors scene from Jason and the Argonauts, and The animated Kali vs Sinbad's sailors in The Golden Voyage of Sinbad. I think the former is the better scene but I enjoy the latter more as a movie (mostly due to the talents of Tom Baker and Caroline Munro..)
Also, just about any Akira Kurasawa Historic battle scene-both gorgeous and horrifying at once.
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Post by Toad-Killer-Dog on Oct 24, 2010 19:53:11 GMT -5
Yeah, Kurasawa did a wonderful job of un-romanticizing battle.
However if you mention Kurasawa you make me think of Toshiro Mifune, king of the samurai!
Best Mifune line "I can't kill a lot with only one sword" ;D
I think the fight scene at the end of "Samurai Rebellion" was one of Mifune's best.
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