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Errata
Oct 16, 2019 1:16:44 GMT -5
Post by stormcrow on Oct 16, 2019 1:16:44 GMT -5
Hi all
Was wondering if an errata doc. has been compiled for Deluxe? I found a couple of errors in the text.
Thanks
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Errata
Oct 16, 2019 6:50:02 GMT -5
Post by mahrundl on Oct 16, 2019 6:50:02 GMT -5
Welcome, stormcrow!
There was a thread on the Deluxe Kickstarter page that people were reporting errors on. I don't believe that there have been any official errata released though.
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Oct 16, 2019 13:21:12 GMT -5
Post by stormcrow on Oct 16, 2019 13:21:12 GMT -5
Ah, ok thanks for the reply Thanks for the welcome
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Oct 16, 2019 15:10:18 GMT -5
Post by stormcrow on Oct 16, 2019 15:10:18 GMT -5
Page 25 "Consider 10 weight units = 1 pound"
Page 26 "Feir starts out with a roll of 8, giving her a modest 80gp...so Feir is carrying 80 weight units"
So, 80 coins weigh 8lbs? That can't be right.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:14:52 GMT -5
Post by ProfGremlin on Oct 16, 2019 19:14:52 GMT -5
Hey, stormcrow, welcome and well spotted! Honestly, I think what you're seeing there is a holdover from an earlier time. Both T&T and D&D used the same concept. The rationale being that it's a measure of encumbrance which factors in both weight and difficulty carrying the item. 1 GP = 1/10th of a pound was also an easy calculation to make at the table. You could use a simple calculation and state that all coins are equal to 0.05 pounds so encumbrance is calculated at [# of Coins](0.05)=raw weight of loot. In Feir's case, four pounds of gold. A similar discussion was posted over here in the 5th Ed Errata thread. Interestingly, the same issue
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Oct 16, 2019 19:15:08 GMT -5
Post by ProfGremlin on Oct 16, 2019 19:15:08 GMT -5
Hey, stormcrow, welcome and well spotted! Honestly, I think what you're seeing there is a holdover from an earlier time. Both T&T and D&D used the same concept. The rationale being that it's a measure of encumbrance which factors in both weight and difficulty carrying the item. 1 GP = 1/10th of a pound was also an easy calculation to make at the table. You could use a simple calculation and state that all coins are equal to 0.05 pounds so encumbrance is calculated at [# of Coins](0.05)=raw weight of loot. In Feir's case, four pounds of gold. A similar discussion was posted over here in the 5th Ed Errata thread. Interestingly, the same issue
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Post by khaboom on Oct 17, 2019 0:31:43 GMT -5
I like the idea that most successful delvers eventually succumb to bad back problems due to the weight of the gold they insisted on hauling out of dungeons. Now I can save heaps on monsters' salaries and just take the treasure back when their in their bath chairs.
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Errata
Oct 17, 2019 0:49:44 GMT -5
Post by stormcrow on Oct 17, 2019 0:49:44 GMT -5
Hey, stormcrow , welcome and well spotted! Honestly, I think what you're seeing there is a holdover from an earlier time. Both T&T and D&D used the same concept. The rationale being that it's a measure of encumbrance which factors in both weight and difficulty carrying the item. 1 GP = 1/10th of a pound was also an easy calculation to make at the table. You could use a simple calculation and state that all coins are equal to 0.05 pounds so encumbrance is calculated at [# of Coins](0.05)=raw weight of loot. In Feir's case, four pounds of gold. A similar discussion was posted over here in the 5th Ed Errata thread. Interestingly, the same issue Wow, The poster "Drudge" is me! Or was me. I couldn't remember my details so made another account. As I was typing up my question about coin weights I was thinking, 'This feels very familiar...' Thanks for the info
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5atbu
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Post by 5atbu on Oct 18, 2019 14:48:06 GMT -5
Roman denarius weighed 4.5g-3.5g, which is what, 1/7 of an ounce, to maybe 3/12 of an ounce? (I don't do non SI well). Riff off that, remember coins are quite easy to carry strapped to your body en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denarius
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Oct 20, 2019 14:06:04 GMT -5
Post by stormcrow on Oct 20, 2019 14:06:04 GMT -5
Is it me, or does the combat example on page 76 look wrong?
"Lars and friends roll a HPT of 84 points in which they got five 6's. The ogre and the grobrins rolled 74 points in which they got four 6's. If neither side has any armor, the illkin would take 9 points of actual hurts, of which 5 are spite damage."
That 9 should be 10, yes?
If Bragtongue's side rolled 82 points to Lindstrom's 84 (with everything else the same), there would be only 2 points of regular damage against the bad guys. However, the good guys rolled 5 points of spite damage!
Brag and the grobrins still have to take all the spite damage, distributing the points among them. Two of those points are general damage, and Brag absorbs them on his raggedy mail. The remaining 3 points are spite damage that leaves a spatter of blood on the floor.
I thought if Spite damage was more than regular damage, you just too Spite damage. So, shouldn't Brag and the grobrins take 5 damage?
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Post by zanshin on Oct 23, 2019 5:10:08 GMT -5
Is it me, or does the combat example on page 76 look wrong? "Lars and friends roll a HPT of 84 points in which they got five 6's. The ogre and the grobrins rolled 74 points in which they got four 6's. If neither side has any armor, the illkin would take 9 points of actual hurts, of which 5 are spite damage."
That 9 should be 10, yes? If Bragtongue's side rolled 82 points to Lindstrom's 84 (with everything else the same), there would be only 2 points of regular damage against the bad guys. However, the good guys rolled 5 points of spite damage!
Brag and the grobrins still have to take all the spite damage, distributing the points among them. Two of those points are general damage, and Brag absorbs them on his raggedy mail. The remaining 3 points are spite damage that leaves a spatter of blood on the floor.I thought if Spite damage was more than regular damage, you just too Spite damage. So, shouldn't Brag and the grobrins take 5 damage? You are correct both times I believe. Dear ken St Andre is wonderfully inventive, but less good at consistently applying his own rules. If you can obtain a copy of 5e (available for download from RPG Drive Thru) there is a wonderful example of combat between Delvers and Ogres that is very well narrated, and also set my T&T playstyle for combat. Thanks for engaging here, we always enjoy new blood (I don't drink...wine)
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Oct 23, 2019 13:56:27 GMT -5
Post by mahrundl on Oct 23, 2019 13:56:27 GMT -5
Last I checked, there were numerical discrepancies in that combat example as well.
It's still a great example, but the numbers are wrong in several places...
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5atbu
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Post by 5atbu on Oct 23, 2019 14:58:01 GMT -5
Utterly wrong, confused me to heck and I have played for decades
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darrght
4th Level Troll
Wow, I'm a 4th Level Troll!
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Post by darrght on Oct 24, 2019 13:40:12 GMT -5
Dear ken St Andre is wonderfully inventive, but less good at consistently applying his own rules. Never a truer word spoken but he's still The Trollgod
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