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Post by alkazar on May 20, 2023 2:09:21 GMT -5
The boilerplate idea is a good idea. As far as game editions we could possibly continue with T&T but make M!M! more prominent, and instead of using the Tunnels & Trolls name we use a code like T5 for T&T 5th edition, or T7.5 or DT for Deluxe. Now with monsters! Monsters! we would be safe and we'd get some cool ads and artwork and possibly a column written by Ken, but I think we should keep the T&T stuff on low until we know for sure whats going on over at Rebellion. If someone wants to submit an adventure or article but they don't want to convert it to M!M!, they can. Just avoid the trademarks and when making a reference don't cut and paste the rules verbatim from the books, rewrite it in your own words.
IDK just some ideas. I'm not really involved in this beyond doing some artwork for it. This kinda stuff is for better people than I to figure out and I'm probably not helping much.
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Post by mosker on May 27, 2023 23:51:02 GMT -5
Pending word from Rebellion Unplugged on T&T just thinking about M!M! Given the wide variety of takes on the rules and diversity of settings in already published products from devadasi , darrght , tp , Ken and sscrompton , and Sarah Newton (apologies to those forgotten) Monsters! Mashup(s)! or something like it perhaps....
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Post by apn on May 28, 2023 2:45:16 GMT -5
Pending word from Rebellion Unplugged on T&T just thinking about M!M! Given the wide variety of takes on the rules and diversity of settings in already published products from devadasi , darrght , tp , Ken and sscrompton , and Sarah Newton (apologies to those forgotten) Monsters! Mashup(s)! or something like it perhaps.... For those of us a certain age or older, maybe plain old Monster Mash! might suffice. Before my time (when it came out) but as a novelty song it repeated on the airwaves for decades after...
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Post by zanshin on May 28, 2023 4:03:44 GMT -5
I have been absent from this discussion for a while - there has been alot going on with my father, and my energies have been elsewhere.
I find the Rebellion news very encouraging, and also love the idea of a zine that covers both T&T & M!M!
If we could resume as Trollszine under the publication of Tavernmaster that would be my preference.
However, I probably need to step back as the prime mover, for a while at least and don't want to block someone with more excitement and energy for this right now.
If someone does want to step forward I promise my blessing and a sharing of any content and contacts I hold.
Thanks all for your commitment to the sites flagship zine.
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Post by Sarah Newton on May 31, 2023 10:05:32 GMT -5
Hi folks, Count me in for an article when Trollzine looks to return. Just let me know deadline, wordcount, and kinda roughly what sort of thing you'd like, and I'll fire something through. Could be gamey, could be fiction, could be rules, could be a monster, could be setting peeks, details, secrets. There's a lot of energy in the M!M / T&T community right now, and we're reaching out to a lot of new folks too. Happy to help, looking forward to seeing the next issue. All the best, Sarah
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Post by rashathetimid on May 31, 2023 12:03:44 GMT -5
Hi folks, Count me in for an article when Trollzine looks to return. Just let me know deadline, wordcount, and kinda roughly what sort of thing you'd like, and I'll fire something through. Could be gamey, could be fiction, could be rules, could be a monster, could be setting peeks, details, secrets. There's a lot of energy in the M!M / T&T community right now, and we're reaching out to a lot of new folks too. Happy to help, looking forward to seeing the next issue. All the best, Sarah That would be great
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Post by peterpanda on Jun 4, 2023 14:01:30 GMT -5
Greetings Trollkins,
I've been busy and non-contributing for a while now. Since many of us have an affinity for alliteration, if we're to rename the publication, I contribute the following related suggestions for consideration:
Monstrous Missive Monster Missive
As for the recent development of Rebellion acquiring the T&T assets, like many others here, at first glance, I am cautiously optimistic but will take a wait-and-see approach. It feels like a much better fit but until we get clarity, it's hard to form a firmer opinion than that. I was an early critic of what I viewed as poor communication from WS, comments which I still stand by, and hope that the game we all love and cherish will flourish under more active and engaged ownership.
Cheers -
Peter Panda
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Post by sscrompton on Jun 5, 2023 22:32:14 GMT -5
I was thinking. Trolls are considered monsters - right?! So do we really need to change the name of the zine? Or is anything with Troll in it Verboten? That sounds reasonable.
Hopefully Rebellion Unplugged will soon offer clear and reasonable guidelines for third-party publications.
In any case, have boilerplate ready for both games that properly credits the publisher, trademark holder, etc., and makes it clear that the 'zine is presenting new material and that it isn't challenging any rights.
ANSWER LIZ was big fan of those surveys and they did use them to help decide which solos to do and what directions to go in. Troll is NOT a trademarked word and Troll appeared in places long before T&T came along so you CAN use the word Troll in your title. My suggestion for you all is to do an special Monsters!Monsters! issue of Trollzine. There is a LOT to talk about with M!M! right now. Maybe a whiile after that you'll get more news from Rebellion and have a better idea of waht they will allow. Steve Steve
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Post by alkazar on Jun 5, 2023 22:44:04 GMT -5
My suggestion for you all is to do an special Monsters!Monsters! issue of Trollzine. There is a LOT to talk about with M!M! right now. Maybe a while after that you'll get more news from Rebellion and have a better idea of what they will allow. I second second that idea.
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Post by johntgg on Jun 6, 2023 7:45:01 GMT -5
My suggestion for you all is to do an special Monsters!Monsters! issue of Trollzine. There is a LOT to talk about with M!M! right now. Maybe a while after that you'll get more news from Rebellion and have a better idea of what they will allow. I second second that idea. I would third this idea, it would be fun to expand the material for M!M!.
I would love to write a piece for it. Could be a monster, gm adventure, solo, or even some spells. I'm sure I have some material in my campaign doc I could clean up and add on to for general consumption
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Post by trolletgunnar on Jun 7, 2023 10:00:02 GMT -5
That sounds reasonable.
Hopefully Rebellion Unplugged will soon offer clear and reasonable guidelines for third-party publications.
In any case, have boilerplate ready for both games that properly credits the publisher, trademark holder, etc., and makes it clear that the 'zine is presenting new material and that it isn't challenging any rights.
ANSWER LIZ was big fan of those surveys and they did use them to help decide which solos to do and what directions to go in. Troll is NOT a trademarked word and Troll appeared in places long before T&T came along so you CAN use the word Troll in your title. My suggestion for you all is to do an special Monsters!Monsters! issue of Trollzine. There is a LOT to talk about with M!M! right now. Maybe a whiile after that you'll get more news from Rebellion and have a better idea of waht they will allow. Steve Steve I am all for that idea.
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Post by tp on Jun 8, 2023 7:19:44 GMT -5
I think this is the best idea. Trollszine has a heritage. Issue 14(?) Could be an m!m! issue, and then let's see with the next issue, but ideally both t&t and m!m!
I would like to do a Zenith City contribution for the next zine, what would people like to see?
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Post by nialldubh on Jun 8, 2023 7:50:02 GMT -5
Trollgate the Doorway to a new, bla, bla bla? Trollcave, do not go in under pain of aaaaagh....! Tactics and Trolls... Tinker, Tailor, Troll? Troll Tale... Toll Talisman... Troll Toll Treasures and Trolls Temple of the Troll Terror and Trolls, naw ? Troll Thorp Toads and Trolls Troll Toss Troll Totem Trolltrap Trolltrip Troll Troupe Troll Trow Trollday
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Post by mosker on Jun 8, 2023 12:29:22 GMT -5
Sigh. Now I want to create a solo series under the pen name Dhon LeKarrhhrgh. The Troll Who Came Out of the Cold...
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Post by nialldubh on Jun 8, 2023 13:03:00 GMT -5
lol
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