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Post by Rat Salad on Aug 20, 2024 10:01:05 GMT -5
Hey kwll: What do you mean? You want me to explain the basic layout of the class...the approach, the how's and the why's?
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mosker
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Post by mosker on Aug 20, 2024 10:11:20 GMT -5
(I'd love to see a syallabus/reading list...in fact althought my teaching career was mighty short--creating syllabi and reading lists in my head is still a pleasant and much needed diversion)
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Post by kwll on Aug 20, 2024 10:52:18 GMT -5
Hey kwll: What do you mean? You want me to explain the basic layout of the class...the approach, the how's and the why's? Yeah, something like that, a course plan / summary, a syllabus, anything you can reasonably share.
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Post by Rat Salad on Aug 20, 2024 13:13:10 GMT -5
Oh, I gotcha...! I change out the package every Fall...it started as the "history of silent horror", so we'd start with the films of Melies (the turn of the century French magician and camera/film innovator), and talk about stage magic and it's use of early film, and how that pushed (pre-dated) optical effects (go watch "Trip To The Moon" on youtube and others...just type his name in, if you aren't familiar), then we watched Edison's "Frankenstein" and talk about literature, painting and the bleed-over into the concept of the development of the "monster" in films. On to "Nosferatu", "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" and then a whole section on Lon Chaney Sr. and his important films ("Phantom of the Opera", "He Who Gets Slapped", etc.). Ended that class on the advent of sound and the last period for silents (low-budget underground...last film: 1955 "Dementia"...beatnik horror). Then, I developed a package (took a few years of research) for the 1960s and the Italian western class...that one has been hugely popular. Anyhow, this last class was the "Fantasy Film" package, so in that one we look at the advent of fantasy and sci-fi in film...the Sinbad franchise (Harryhausen and stop animation), the influence of comic work (Frazetta, Ditko, Kubert, etc.)...the 1950s Tarzan and Conan notions...then onto the animated films ("Fire and Ice", "Wizards", etc.) and the importance of D&D and similar games (Ken St. Andre, Gary Gygax, Arneson, etc.)..........the structure of the classes are the same...1 hour lecture, then a full film. 3 tests and a presentation paper of choice. It counts as an art history elective. It has been a successful class...most numbers around 45 each time.
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Post by Rat Salad on Aug 20, 2024 13:19:17 GMT -5
Here is the textbook for the silent horror package: "Silent Screams": The History of the Silent Horror Film" by Steve Haberman
Here is the one for the spaghetti western class: "Any Gun Can Play" by Kenneth Grant
The fantasy package was too diverse to bother with a required text...relies on lecture.
Anyhow, these two books above are really, really good if you are interested in either subject, and the price is great (I can't stand the whole textbook scam on kids, so I try to require books like this that I find myself and aren't part of the standard loop...and won't cost them a dozen student loan payments in the long run!)...
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trolletgunnar
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Post by trolletgunnar on Aug 22, 2024 9:25:48 GMT -5
And to think I spent my time in college studying Kant and Hegel. . . . I kind of enjoyed Kant and Hegel, but I would have liked that course also. Which german philosopher would have the highest MR? Would they bet on the French?
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Post by trolletgunnar on Aug 22, 2024 9:33:03 GMT -5
I can only speak from my own experience, but I agree. There is little audience for the 10-13 year old age bracket for any table-top rpg. I'm not saying none, but very little based upon what I see. There was back in 1979, when I got started, but I don't see that today. I work at a university, and from I witness that's about the age these days where it might come into play, and even then it's always D&D or Pathfinder. I have many friends that teach in public school, and I've asked them about kids and the games they play, and they agree. I'm not saying NONE (so cool yer jets if you disagree). When the college students see T&T on my desk, they are literally mystified. Most don't even realize that games existed much before those two big-league games, and few know the history of the hobby. I taught a lecture course once on the history of ttrpgs...the entire class was surprised to hear the history. Even at the college level, you are talking about a small group of people that play regularly (and so far, it's either 5th edition or Pathfinder) in compared with those that do other things on their phones or video games. I realize that my experience at a small university in a small, rural town in Texas doesn't represent everywhere, but I'm feel confident that it isn't a whole lot different elsewhere. If that was the marketing strategy (for this country, at least), then that would be even a goofier business decision than shifting the entire substructure of the game! I meet a lot of kids at my work as a Librarian, and it seems to me that paper and pen mainly appeal to a few chosen "bookworms". It is important to promote this type of game. I think the screens are making up a big part of kids' time today. When we started to play, in the eighties, we played both paper and pen games and computer versions like the eye of the Beholder and eyes. But now it seems like games via the phones are t h e thing.
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Post by stevemitchell on Aug 22, 2024 10:38:30 GMT -5
Between Kant and Hegel, I'd rather read Nietzsche or Schopenhauer! Socrates, as a veteran of the Peloponessian War, might rate a high MR. And don't knock the French: both Sartre and Camus served in the Resistance.
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Post by mosker on Aug 22, 2024 14:03:25 GMT -5
Tunnels & Tenure anyone? (In an attempt to bring us back on topic, maybe Rebellion will do a special Oxbridge edition)
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Post by Rat Salad on Aug 22, 2024 14:26:00 GMT -5
Mosker again with the win! ha, ha!! Cracked me up...
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Post by sharps54 on Aug 25, 2024 7:14:00 GMT -5
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Post by mosker on Aug 25, 2024 11:21:01 GMT -5
If they're using this on the big ticket franchise, I'm hoping that means they'll devote the resources to really playtest it, see what the modified (or new for those who don't view the retained SR mechanism as the core) system does and can possibly extend to--or at least give us an idea of its limitations. Mind you, I've not read nearly enough Judge Dredd to have an idea of what their target fandom might want from the game.
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Post by sscrompton on Aug 25, 2024 22:41:17 GMT -5
We'll just have to wait and see I guess. Ken and I are still plugging away at stuff and trying to do new things like combining a comic book and a GM adventure into one book. We just put out Trail to Zimrala which is solo KEn wrote that takes place in the old west. Its very much like a Wild Wild WEst episode on you get the be the equivalent of James West and Artemus Gordon. AND it involves portals to another world...
We are trying to Innovate in our own way.
Rebellion will do what they will do - I won't be surprised if T&T will also be some kind of computer game... But again that's just guesswork on my part...
What they come up with may be great or it may be something geared to a new audience entirely and not to the liking of old school T&T fans... I truly don't know... I hope everyone likes it, whatever form it takes.
Steve
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Post by Aramis of Erak on Aug 26, 2024 1:06:54 GMT -5
Rebellion will do what they will do - I won't be surprised if T&T will also be some kind of computer game... Not like it wasn't already...
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Post by trolletgunnar on Aug 27, 2024 5:45:21 GMT -5
Between Kant and Hegel, I'd rather read Nietzsche or Schopenhauer! Socrates, as a veteran of the Peloponessian War, might rate a high MR. And don't knock the French: both Sartre and Camus served in the Resistance. www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfduUFF_i1A Monty Python Philosophy Football Fun fact: Schopemhauer was a talented flute player, and Nietzsche exchanged letters with, among others, Strindberg, who did not understand that N was becoming more insane due to various diseases, including syphilis.
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